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=> Vox Populi ©
2003-06-28 05:19:12 UTC
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Senators Laud Thurmond's Long Career
Friday, June 27, 2003

AP

WASHINGTON - Senators -- Republican and Democratic, from the left to the
right -- remembered the life, career and transformed racial views of Strom
Thurmond (search) on Friday, a day after history's oldest and longest-serving
member of the Senate died at 100.

For all the highlights of the South Carolina Republican's life -- he landed in
Normandy (search) in a glider on D-Day and served more than 48 years as
senator -- many senators felt compelled to address his racial legacy.

Thurmond ran a pro-segregation campaign for president in 1948. As a senator nine
years later, he filibustered (search) against the civil rights bill (search) for
a still-record 24 hours 18 minutes, denouncing its attempts at "race-mixing."

But unlike Sen. Trent Lott, R-Miss., who lost his job as majority leader last
December after embracing Thurmond's Dixiecrat (search) presidential run,
senators saluted Thurmond's later racial views. He was the first Southern GOP
senator to hire a black aide in 1970, and he supported money for historically
black colleges and creation of the federal holiday for Martin Luther King Jr.
"I believe Strom Thurmond was a captive of his era, his age and his geography,"
said the liberal Sen. Joseph Biden (search), D-Del., a friend who said he has
been asked to deliver a eulogy at Thurmond's funeral. "I do not believe Strom
Thurmond at his core was a racist. But even if he had been, I believe that he
changed."

"He campaigned on a platform of states' rights," said Senate Majority Leader
Bill Frist (search), R-Tenn., who was catapulted from relative obscurity to the
No. 1 Senate GOP job after the furor over Lott's remarks. "But in doing so, he
also opposed civil rights, as he did for many years as a senator. History will
reflect that part of Strom's life. But history will also reflect that when Strom
saw America had changed, and changed for the better, he changed, too."

The chamber where Thurmond served until last January was virtually empty Friday.
Most senators already had left for a weeklong July 4 break after working past
midnight to pass a landmark bill to revamp Medicare.

But flags were at half-staff on the Senate side of the Capitol. The Senate used
a voice vote to approve a resolution that honored Thurmond as a man who
"conducted his life in an exemplary manner" whose death "has deprived his state
and nation of a most outstanding senator."

And those lawmakers still around spoke about their late colleague, with few
shying away from the subject of Thurmond's positions on race.

The man who inherited Thurmond's Senate seat in January said he had used "a
platform that divided the races" in his 1948 presidential campaign.

"That was a dark time in South Carolina; it was a dark time for our nation,"
said Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C.

But Graham said Thurmond eventually "embraced the future," which made it easier
for other Southern lawmakers to moderate their own racial views.

"It is not fair to freeze Senator Thurmond in time," Graham said, referring to
Thurmond's 1948 presidential campaign. "He will be held accountable in history
for that part of his life. History should note, history should understand, that
in many subtle ways and many bold ways, he allowed my state to move forward, and
everybody in my state is better off for it."

There was levity, too, along with awe about the sheer longevity of Thurmond's
life and career.

Sen. Robert Bennett, R-Utah, recalled "the very worried look" on Thurmond's face
when he emerged from the Capitol physician's office -- upset that he could no
longer do the one-armed push-ups he long prided himself on.

Frist spoke of Thurmond's having campaigned for the votes of Civil War veterans
early in his career, and having served with about one-fifth of all the senators
in the nation's history. And Graham noted that Thurmond became a grandfather for
the very first time only last week, at age 100.

"They tell me it was a very magic, touching moment, and a week later he passed
on," Graham said.

But most of all, Thurmond's colleagues used the occasion to celebrate his
evolution. "People change; people grow," Biden said.
Ken Smith
2003-06-28 11:28:37 UTC
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But most of all, Thurmond's colleagues used the occasion to celebrate his
evolution. "People change; people grow," Biden said.
And I'm sure you'll feel the same way about the "King of
Pork," Sen. Robert "KKK" Byrd (D-WV)? Hmmmmm?

Give the man his due. Unlike Trent Lott, he evolved.
Wyle Coyote
2003-06-28 17:18:49 UTC
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But most of all, Thurmond's colleagues used the occasion to celebrate his
evolution. "People change; people grow," Biden said.
And I'm sure you'll feel the same way about the "King of
Pork," Sen. Robert "KKK" Byrd (D-WV)? Hmmmmm?
Give the man his due. Unlike Trent Lott, he evolved.
Please! Let's make him a legend and a martyr...an American Icon!
The guy did more damage than good for the nations race issues!
Hope he has a hotter summer than we do!
Eugene Kent
2003-06-28 18:34:52 UTC
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You lemming neo-con fundys have become pathetic. What ever happened to I'll
kick their ass Bush?
Afghanistan = 0
Iraq = 0
American economy = 0.
Strike three dud.
Your out.
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But most of all, Thurmond's colleagues used the occasion to celebrate his
evolution. "People change; people grow," Biden said.
And I'm sure you'll feel the same way about the "King of
Pork," Sen. Robert "KKK" Byrd (D-WV)? Hmmmmm?
Give the man his due. Unlike Trent Lott, he evolved.
Please! Let's make him a legend and a martyr...an American Icon!
The guy did more damage than good for the nations race issues!
Hope he has a hotter summer than we do!
Ken Smith
2003-06-29 13:43:30 UTC
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Senators Laud Thurmond's Long Career
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But most of all, Thurmond's colleagues used the occasion to celebrate his
evolution. "People change; people grow," Biden said.
And I'm sure you'll feel the same way about the "King of
Pork," Sen. Robert "KKK" Byrd (D-WV)? Hmmmmm?
Give the man his due. Unlike Trent Lott, he evolved.
Please! Let's make him a legend and a martyr...an American Icon!
I'm not making him either. I'm just saying that if you fuck up and
come correct, it is one hell of a lot better than if you simply fuck up
and continue on that course.
Post by Wyle Coyote
The guy did more damage than good for the nations race issues!
On balance, I agree. But I'd rather have a penitent man than a
man who never questioned himself.
Ken Smith
2003-06-29 16:57:32 UTC
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Senators Laud Thurmond's Long Career
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But most of all, Thurmond's colleagues used the occasion to celebrate
his
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evolution. "People change; people grow," Biden said.
And I'm sure you'll feel the same way about the "King of
Pork," Sen. Robert "KKK" Byrd (D-WV)? Hmmmmm?
Give the man his due. Unlike Trent Lott, he evolved.
Please! Let's make him a legend and a martyr...an American Icon!
I'm not making him either. I'm just saying that if you fuck up and
come correct, it is one hell of a lot better than if you simply fuck up
and continue on that course.
Post by Wyle Coyote
The guy did more damage than good for the nations race issues!
On balance, I agree. But I'd rather have a penitent man than a
man who never questioned himself.
They all get "penitent" when staring their own mortality in the face ...
Which Thurmond has been doing non-stop for about, oh, say, thirty
years.... :)
Kind of like confessing at gunpoint ...
Better than "Bellagio Bill" Bennett, at least.... :)
=> Vox Populi ©
2003-06-29 17:20:37 UTC
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Senators Laud Thurmond's Long Career
Friday, June 27, 2003
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But most of all, Thurmond's colleagues used the occasion to celebrate
his
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evolution. "People change; people grow," Biden said.
And I'm sure you'll feel the same way about the "King of
Pork," Sen. Robert "KKK" Byrd (D-WV)? Hmmmmm?
Give the man his due. Unlike Trent Lott, he evolved.
Please! Let's make him a legend and a martyr...an American Icon!
I'm not making him either. I'm just saying that if you fuck up and
come correct, it is one hell of a lot better than if you simply fuck up
and continue on that course.
Post by Wyle Coyote
The guy did more damage than good for the nations race issues!
On balance, I agree. But I'd rather have a penitent man than a
man who never questioned himself.
They all get "penitent" when staring their own mortality in the face ...
Which Thurmond has been doing non-stop for about, oh, say, thirty
years.... :)
So since about 70 years old ...?

Shadows of the Grim Reaper are visited upon most by that age, regardless of
how long the Angel of Death leaves one to suffer.

May Ronald Regan live, and suffer, to be at least 100 ...
Post by Ken Smith
Kind of like confessing at gunpoint ...
Better than "Bellagio Bill" Bennett, at least.... :)
Wyle Coyote
2003-06-29 17:35:36 UTC
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Senators Laud Thurmond's Long Career
Friday, June 27, 2003
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But most of all, Thurmond's colleagues used the occasion to celebrate
his
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evolution. "People change; people grow," Biden said.
And I'm sure you'll feel the same way about the "King of
Pork," Sen. Robert "KKK" Byrd (D-WV)? Hmmmmm?
Give the man his due. Unlike Trent Lott, he evolved.
Please! Let's make him a legend and a martyr...an American Icon!
I'm not making him either. I'm just saying that if you fuck up and
come correct, it is one hell of a lot better than if you simply fuck up
and continue on that course.
Post by Wyle Coyote
The guy did more damage than good for the nations race issues!
On balance, I agree. But I'd rather have a penitent man than a
man who never questioned himself.
They all get "penitent" when staring their own mortality in the face ...
Which Thurmond has been doing non-stop for about, oh, say, thirty
years.... :)
And if he died at 100...uh...that means he started at 70yrs.
Timely!

Winston Smith
2003-06-29 05:33:03 UTC
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In article <sx9La.317$***@news.uswest.net>, comrade "=> Vox Populi ©"
<-> wrote:


"Hallelujah!?"


You sorry inconsiderate weasel.

--
"I left religion at age 12, and conservatism at age 26, to become the
godless pinko commie lying socialist weasel..."
-- Steve Kangas, DOA
- Vox Populi ©
2003-06-29 05:37:57 UTC
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Post by Winston Smith
"Hallelujah!?"
Yep ...
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You sorry inconsiderate weasel.
May he burn in Hell ...
Post by Winston Smith
--
"I left religion at age 12, and conservatism at age 26, to become the
godless pinko commie lying socialist weasel..."
-- Steve Kangas, DOA
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